The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast

3. Shoot Joy out of a Cannon - Bob Peshak

From a chance meeting on a Southwest flight from Arizona to Chicago, Bob Peshak met Sylvia and a friendship immediately blossomed, although Kristen was a little suspicious at the beginning. Bob is the General Manager of Envirosure, which is an environmental, health, and safety (EHS) compliance service company based in Tempe, Arizona. As Sylvia learned on the airplane, and as you will learn, Bob has an infectious and enthusiastic personality, and the number one thing he looks for when he hires people ... is happiness. He hires happy people.

2. Bounced off the Ballot - Carmen Navarro Gercone

Kristen and Sylvia visit with Carmen Navarro Gercone, a Chicago native who has worked in law enforcement since 1994. Carmen was sworn-in as a Deputy Sheriff for the Cook County Sheriff's Office. During her tenure, she was promoted through the ranks to become the first Assistant Executive Director for Court Services. She led a department of approximately 1,100 sworn officers and 200 civilian employees with around-the-clock operations, including the service of orders of protections, evictions, and the security of the courthouses throughout Cook County. Recently, Carmen lost a series of court battles that will prevent her from being a candidate on the ballot for Sheriff of Cook County.

1. What the ?

Some leaders are full of substance, and others are hollow bunnies. Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir have had both as they rose through the ranks to eventually become police chiefs in their respective departments. They'll share what they've learned and talk with other industry leaders in conversations that will frequently devolve from focused to fun.