The Hollow Bunny Leadership Podcast
Some leaders are full of substance, and others are hollow bunnies. Kristen Ziman and Sylvia Moir have experienced both as they rose through the ranks to eventually become police chiefs in their respective departments. They’ll share what they’ve learned and talk with other industry leaders in conversations that will frequently devolve from focused to fun.
Episodes

Friday Jan 31, 2025
Friday Jan 31, 2025
Our episode begins with Sylvia offering meditation advice that Kristen can get behind, and along the way we learn that bison walk into a snowstorm because they instinctively know they'll get through it faster that way.

Thursday Jan 16, 2025
Thursday Jan 16, 2025
We haven't posted a podcast in a while. Life got in the way, but every obstacle is an opportunity. The result is Episode 42, The Reboot.

Friday Aug 23, 2024
Friday Aug 23, 2024
Kristen & Sylvia visit with Chris Hsiung, a former police chief and founding board member of "The Curve," a non-profit created with the goal of modernizing police culture from within the profession.

Friday Aug 02, 2024
Friday Aug 02, 2024
Michael Koonce is the president of H2 Strategics and a pro at helping customers adopt hydrogen as an alternative clean fuel that is profitable and good for the globe. He is known for aiding customers with whole solutions not just a single piece of equipment or delivery. His work ethic, positive attitude, business acumen and holistic approach teaches leaders on various enterprises about becoming indispensable. He is not just a global success, he is a pilot, a chef, and a darn good cribbage player.

Saturday Jul 13, 2024
Saturday Jul 13, 2024
Kristen & Sylvia discuss narcissism, how it can benefit leaders (in small doses) and how to handle leaders who have it.

Friday Jun 21, 2024
Friday Jun 21, 2024
Scott Thuman anchors 7News' 5 p.m., 6 p.m. and 11 p.m. newscasts every weeknight in Washington DC.
Over the years, his objective coverage has earned him many awards, including multiple Emmys, AP, Murrow, and Telly honors.
Scott spent much of the last decade as Chief Political Correspondent at the Sinclair Broadcast Group before returning to 7News in 2024. He’s also a weekly contributor to the national show, Full Measure with Sharyl Attkisson.

Friday Jun 07, 2024
Friday Jun 07, 2024
In Sarah LaMont's own words: "When I graduated college with a degree in Graphic Design from the
University of Washington I had a hard time finding a job in my field,
that is when I secured a second job at Nordstrom in Downtown Seattle as a
Salesperson in the Women’s Petite Department. Admittedly, I didn’t
think it was a real job… on my very first day I tended to a 5 feet tall
woman who was overwhelmed trying to find something memorable to wear to
her son’s wedding. By the end of the day, not only had we found
something that made her feel beautiful but had accomplished the same
challenge for her husband. They were so happy I remember them tipping me
$100 and told me to use it to buy myself a bottle of vodka because 'I
deserved it!' This experience was eye opening to me… I always loved
getting dressed and saw it as a way to express who I was and how I
wanted people to see me; I cared more about body shape and proportion
and how fashion could be incorporated into your every day
lifestyle. While working at Nordstrom I encountered people who didn’t
see getting dressed as a creative expression but as a stressful hassle…
and I wanted to help. I do what I love: Styling for both men and
women, not just for special occasions and events, but for their Saturday
mornings and casual evenings with their family and friends. I believe
style should be part of your everyday life and doesn’t have to be full
of rules and “dry clean only” labels. I started this business so that I
can help each one of my clients find function and creativity in their
existing closets and never feel embarrassed to bump into people they
know while out doing errands again. Why style?… Why not!"

Friday May 24, 2024
Friday May 24, 2024
Before she was an entrepreneur, Becky Stickley was
an "intrapreneur." Her career path has been more of a jungle gym than a
ladder and she has served as a children’s librarian, trademark
assistant, communications professional, and project manager. Throughout
her career, she excelled and collected all the gold stars. Until she got
“the promotion that changed everything.” In the midst of overwhelm and a
massive case of imposter syndrome, Becky found coaching. It changed the
way she manages her day, leads her team, and loves her family and friends.
She’s never looked back, and now brings all that goodness to her
clients.She has more than a decade of experience managing
multi-million dollar projects, brand new programs, and both in-person
and remote teams. Becky combines this experience, a degree in leadership
studies, and a coaching certification to help her clients navigate the
evolving work landscape by gaining confidence, building resiliency,
better managing relationships, and developing their unique leadership
style with less overwhelm and frustration.Becky lives in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia with her husband, daughter, dog, cat, and growing herd of cows.

Saturday May 11, 2024
Saturday May 11, 2024
After two guests cancel, Kristen & Sylvia fill the void with a
fun-filled and informative conversation ranging from the lessons learned
from the Adam Grant book "Think Again," to a discussion about the
people in our lives, including "illuminators" and "diminishers," all
brought to you by our new sponsors: Naked Attraction, Yellow Legal Pads
& No. 2 Pencils, Coach and Tumi (not really).

Friday Apr 26, 2024
Friday Apr 26, 2024
Jennifer Gonzales is the Chief of Police of Napa, California, despite the fact that she doesn't make her bed every morning. As our chiefs Kristen and Sylvia try to understand how a person so accomplished can be so negligent toward her own bed, they are blindsided by the number of unread emails in Chief Gonzales' phone and how many snooze alarms she has set every morning. The lesson is that there are many different ways to be the right person for the job, and many different right ways to do the job. We hope you enjoy our conversation with this admitted Star Wars nerd. May the force be with you.